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	<title>Comments on: Are Shipping Container Homes &amp; Offices hitting the big time?</title>
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		<title>By: George Runkle</title>
		<link>http://www.smallhousestyle.com/2009/06/02/are-shipping-container-homes-offices-hitting-the-big-time/comment-page-1/#comment-782</link>
		<dc:creator>George Runkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see a picture of it - I don&#039;t think I&#039;d be comfortable swimming in an 8&#039; wide x 40&#039; long lap pool that is 8&#039; deep.  I&#039;d find the depth a bit disconcerting.   What I&#039;d like to know is:
- Did they take into account the loads on the sides?  A pool full of water will counterbalance the soil, but I don&#039;t that&#039;s quite kosher with Code, since the pool could go empty for a long period of time.
- What about corrosion?  Chlorinated water is horribly corrosive, and so is soil.  I wonder how long this would last before rusting away, even with a good coating.

None the less, I&#039;d like to see it.  Personally, I will probably continue to refuse to design buried containers, but still I&#039;m curious.

George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see a picture of it &#8211; I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d be comfortable swimming in an 8&#8242; wide x 40&#8242; long lap pool that is 8&#8242; deep.  I&#8217;d find the depth a bit disconcerting.   What I&#8217;d like to know is:<br />
- Did they take into account the loads on the sides?  A pool full of water will counterbalance the soil, but I don&#8217;t that&#8217;s quite kosher with Code, since the pool could go empty for a long period of time.<br />
- What about corrosion?  Chlorinated water is horribly corrosive, and so is soil.  I wonder how long this would last before rusting away, even with a good coating.</p>
<p>None the less, I&#8217;d like to see it.  Personally, I will probably continue to refuse to design buried containers, but still I&#8217;m curious.</p>
<p>George</p>
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		<title>By: SHS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Would love to see it.  Did you find it on the internet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Would love to see it.  Did you find it on the internet?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen one shipping container application where the container was buried.  It was a... wait for it... lap pool.  You know, for swimming.  I have no details on how they treated the sides that are exposed to soil, but I thought that was a pretty ingenious idea.  I&#039;m actually wondering if they didn&#039;t cut it down a bit.  Who needs an 8&#039; deep lap pool?  :)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen one shipping container application where the container was buried.  It was a&#8230; wait for it&#8230; lap pool.  You know, for swimming.  I have no details on how they treated the sides that are exposed to soil, but I thought that was a pretty ingenious idea.  I&#8217;m actually wondering if they didn&#8217;t cut it down a bit.  Who needs an 8&#8242; deep lap pool?  <img src='http://www.smallhousestyle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: SHS</title>
		<link>http://www.smallhousestyle.com/2009/06/02/are-shipping-container-homes-offices-hitting-the-big-time/comment-page-1/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>SHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 16:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds great Tom!  We are not experts but you&#039;ll find them via the links in the post.  We&#039;d love to see your sketch!  Send it to editor (at) smallhousestyle.com and we&#039;ll update the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds great Tom!  We are not experts but you&#8217;ll find them via the links in the post.  We&#8217;d love to see your sketch!  Send it to editor (at) smallhousestyle.com and we&#8217;ll update the post!</p>
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		<title>By: tom gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi my back of an envelope plan for a container home requires 2x 40ft containers parallell with each other and 5 x 40ft containers on top of them bridging the gap between the lower 2 containers  so that the total footprint would be  40x40 ft  do you think the 2 ground containers with no cutouts could comfortably support the upper 5,cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi my back of an envelope plan for a container home requires 2x 40ft containers parallell with each other and 5 x 40ft containers on top of them bridging the gap between the lower 2 containers  so that the total footprint would be  40&#215;40 ft  do you think the 2 ground containers with no cutouts could comfortably support the upper 5,cheers</p>
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		<title>By: George Runkle</title>
		<link>http://www.smallhousestyle.com/2009/06/02/are-shipping-container-homes-offices-hitting-the-big-time/comment-page-1/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>George Runkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In burying a container, it will not take the soil pressures at the sides - the pressure is too great.  You will have pressures on the order of 320 LBS/SF on the walls at the base of the container, which it is not designed to handle.  Concrete is better for such a use.

I suspected it wouldn&#039;t work, but I actually did an analysis, and it&#039;s on my website : http://www.runkleconsulting.com/Shipping%20Container%20Houses/ShippingContainerHouseEngineering.htm

Scroll to the bottom of the page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In burying a container, it will not take the soil pressures at the sides &#8211; the pressure is too great.  You will have pressures on the order of 320 LBS/SF on the walls at the base of the container, which it is not designed to handle.  Concrete is better for such a use.</p>
<p>I suspected it wouldn&#8217;t work, but I actually did an analysis, and it&#8217;s on my website : <a href="http://www.runkleconsulting.com/Shipping%20Container%20Houses/ShippingContainerHouseEngineering.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.runkleconsulting.com/Shipping%20Container%20Houses/ShippingContainerHouseEngineering.htm</a></p>
<p>Scroll to the bottom of the page.</p>
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		<title>By: SHS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m imagining they are structural issues.  Anyone care to chime in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m imagining they are structural issues.  Anyone care to chime in?</p>
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		<title>By: Rikki A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rikki A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the reasons for not being able bury a shipping container other than rust?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the reasons for not being able bury a shipping container other than rust?</p>
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		<title>By: George Runkle</title>
		<link>http://www.smallhousestyle.com/2009/06/02/are-shipping-container-homes-offices-hitting-the-big-time/comment-page-1/#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>George Runkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My company does structural engineering with shipping containers, and I believe they can give a substantial cost savings for housing and buildings under proper circumstances:
- Respect the structure of the container, don&#039;t cut side rails, top rails, or corner posts.
- Keep all the loads going down the corners.
- Keep the design simple, adventurous designs will look good but ruin the structural efficiency of the containers and raise the costs unbelievably.
- Repetitive is good, try build larger buildings in modules of the same type.

Finally, in an answer to the question I keep getting by e-mail - you can not bury shipping containers for underground structures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company does structural engineering with shipping containers, and I believe they can give a substantial cost savings for housing and buildings under proper circumstances:<br />
- Respect the structure of the container, don&#8217;t cut side rails, top rails, or corner posts.<br />
- Keep all the loads going down the corners.<br />
- Keep the design simple, adventurous designs will look good but ruin the structural efficiency of the containers and raise the costs unbelievably.<br />
- Repetitive is good, try build larger buildings in modules of the same type.</p>
<p>Finally, in an answer to the question I keep getting by e-mail &#8211; you can not bury shipping containers for underground structures.</p>
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